BRIGHTON MARINA FISHING for the East and West breakwaters

BRIGHTON MARINA FISHING for the East and West breakwaters

tues 10aug

Well a naff start to august ! summer ? really ? jebus ! wet, windy ,shut downs, and next to nothing to report tbh other than yes we are finally back open aannnnd a bit of a cloudy week ahead with the possibility of sun and more westerlies at the weekend , weather dudes having a larf.
more later
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round up of sorts

Lack of updates, part due to holidays, part because wall been fairly quiet & occasionally my private life gets in the way of posts :).
As say things have been fairly quiet of late especially for this time of year when people would expect the walls to be teaming with catches. It has been a bit sluggish but there does seem to be an upping of the number of hounds caught on the east this year, not sure if thats good or bad just thats how it seems. Bream numbers seem well down on the last few years as do wrasse numbers. Bass fishing possibly the best in a few years or maybe there is a raise in the standard of anglers targeting species, so what is happening ? global warming ? climate changes ? maybe just a simple case of a down year. Watching tv other day it said about how bad the weather had been in London 100 years back that it was snowing in July on that given year so maybe global warming is nature playing games .. hey I dunno I just look at fish patterns on the marina over the last 15+ years.
Anyhoo, enough of that , whats happening down on the walls …
So bass, check, still ticking over with some lumps not quite making double sizes, Bream, both walls usual bays for those that know ( a few hints on the site wall guides) Wrasse, numbers well down but those being caught are good sizes, Plaice , east arm tick over , many now somewhat lean & while “in size keepers” in my view better going back to fatten up. Gar .. massive lack for this time of year but may run later with the mackie shoals (read on) Sole, dirty water day catches or night time, reasonable sizes but no lumps that can pop up often(in past years) Eels, come in bursts often after a blow and a few are jumping onto baits this week. other species popping up like gurnards & red mullet(goat fish) but IMO again down in numbers, rays seem to have slowed up but undies are a common visitor to the east. Who is waiting for me to mention mackies again šŸ™‚ ?
Night fishing has slowed this week but over all the last month has been better than those sitting in the sun and baking to crisps. Horse mackerel had a big flurry beginning of july but not as prominent as past numbers. If you are targeting these with lights down the wall please check your colours , please no green or red lighting on the walls. for the night catches, steady numbers now of bream, bass, sole, eels, rays, plaice often in close.
so them mackies, very few large shoals so far & generally best time is 1st & last light at the moment … why are they late this year ? is this normal ? is there a pattern ? IMO and its only an opinion i have a theory based on ICES reports over the last 5 years.
The report… i dont have a link but sure some can dig for it, states that the mackies are moving further and further north to breed as sea temps raise. This the fry is under the ice & as it travels to find food it has further to travel each year than the previous.. so what does that mean you ask… well IMO it means that the arrival on the south coast take longer & later each year & this pattern has been occurring over the last 8 years at least.
AAAhhhh but u say , we have shoals of mackies late April… yes says I BUT, look at them, they have big fat stripes on them in 3 or 4 large bands across the body, IMO again these come up from the Bay of Biscay & are linked to the Spanish mackerel shoals thus the April run still happens but the July run is now later in the year …..dot dot dot…:) sooooooo this results in 2 distinct types of mackerel in the channel in April(ish) and then the “summer” shoals having further to travel start arriving in August-September. These shoals imo(again) then link up with Garfish from the Atlantic waters and head south while trying to avoid factory ships & pair trawlers hunting bass & bream. oddly the ICES reports state good to high numbers of mackerel fry in tested areas , so in theory the numbers should be higher than what we see on the south coast & I recon thats where the over fishing comes in… One eco group is claiming that mackerel are on the edge of becoming a protected species… I gather on the Iberian peninsula recreational anglers are not allowed to target mackies & they are exclusive domain of the commercial fleets ! go figure.
So finally to the mackies on the marina …. as you may by now gather , numbers are poor, quick 30 min flurries are common dawn and dusk and often over high tides. Likewise similar at night with horse mackerel(scad) numbers are erratic. Will things improve ? dunno but i’m gonna say yes & say look to the bigger tides in August for them to start arriving when there will be tons of reports of tiny joeys being caught n kept ! The next 6m tides start around the weekend of the 8th so im sort of expecting a pick up of numbers by the following weekend (15th) bear in mind this is just my view & Im not known for predicting when fish will arrive, but, this year so far has been odd , even weird, wardens have been saying it all seems 5-6 weeks behind & that seemed the case , now im not so sure Im thinking its nature playing with us…
April squid run, never happened, bream nests smashed off the marina by bad weather disrupted that stock, wrasse numbers hugely down, even plaice numbers seem 30% worse this year. on the up side , more bass, rays & hounds being taken & tons of dolphin sightings all along the Sussex coast. This years patterns seem very different.

I received an email this week asking for the updates, yes I will admit they have been less frequent this year & the buck stops with me, so today I decided to take you on a long ramble as Ive been tardy in my posting.

One final note, or request of anglers using the marina. We have pipe bins sited on both walls for unwanted fishing line, its collected and recycled to make furniture that often is angling related. They were recently vandalised on the west, my “final point” is to ask for
eyes & ears“.. help us to maintain the facilities on the marina. If you see something off, let a warden know failing that , a message on facebook via the marina group (if u use FB). Vandalism and abuse in general of the marina walls will have fingers pointed at anglers.

Not all vandalism is by slobs but any extra eyes in the marina help us reduce issues such as this and other issues such as bad behaviour, open fires(bbq’s etc)drunks, ppl urinating on the upper and lower walls. the list could go on & on but.. some are getting the message & getting involved. No one needs to stand up to these ppl , a simple phone call in the right ear will get results. Help us to help you, the anglers that want to see it better. We know the issues, if we know when its happening it can be dealt with.
Help us to keep the marina as one of the better South coast venues and keep us informed.
thank you
Anyway , enough of my ramble, until the next time …. over n out
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Sunday round up

Sketchy reports this week so sort of gotta put the bits together over the week to get a picture of whats happening , so here we go.
Still plenty of evening sightings of dolphins , ok not fish but great for the kids if they get to see some. mackerel reports are finally on the improve side with decent shoals… yes shoals of mackerel the last few days over the high tides in the morning 3-7am sort of times and then as the sun drops in the evening they return bringing their friends.
Not had any news on gars this week but they cant be far away, plaice on the east as ever tick over & sizes have been a bit better this week with some genuine keepers .Sole are doing well on the east if you know where you do well. Likewise on the night theme the horse mackerel are now a common sight with many lamps down the side, so a gentle reminder not to use red or green equipment with bulbs, tip lights are fine of any colour. Rays mostly thornies at night & undies during the day are fairly common now and hound pups are also a common catch on the east over the sands.
back onto the sand we are seeing more gurnards & mullet are increasing on the high & low bays. Bream likewise on th rocky marks are doing well both sides & we are seeing some very decent wrasse coming up even if the numbers are less than I would usually expect for this time of year. Likewise bass are still being caught on both walls & live baits it seems are the way to go at the moment for those non lure types.
Over all the fishing has seen a steady pick up for the last 2 weeks so expect the same story with the number of visitors we see at weekends which are now getting very busy .
A little reminder for our night visitors , please resist the urge to put up tents b4 8pm and a reminder of the donts , please dont , bring glass onto the wall, no fires, coals bbq’s etc(gas burners allowed) and if you cant find a toilet use the V’s, hang it over the side & go in the sea. If anyone is caught using the upper pathway as a loo they will be removed from the wall. please help us keep the walls clean & pleasant for all to use and alert the staff of any issues, we can deal with it fast if alerted . ty
finally, its darn hot out there so pack plenty of fluids and sun protection, there is no shelter out there on the walls.

Sunday one week on

Right then,lets open this with a, yep I had a good holiday in Cornwall, sadly my only chance to fish was Thurs on a 4 hr boat trip but there is always next time. Things to do here, yup, galleries to be added too over then next few days & general catch up while away.
General round up
The walls have fished well at night and so so during the day when they have been open. Seems the wet & windy has hampered the walls with weed but with a good forecast for the next week things should change fast.
Bass , still doing very well, generally a case of If you know how it pays off. Bream , defo on the increase and day and night catches more common. Horse mac in abundance am hearing. Plaice & sole doing fine on the east, west low marks showing flatfish also. Mackerel still hit & miss and v few reports of gar.
There are still decent reports of hounds locally and some showing on the walls after dark also. Night warden giving reasonable feedback and enjoying things but not enjoying them that cant find the toilets or use the sea, come on gents, we dont want to smell where u have been so pee in the sea fgs.
Weather looks to be picking up so im hoping the reports will start to come in more and give us all a better picture of whats happening…
And finally as the toons often said ..th-th-th thats all folks
for now šŸ™‚
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Monday monday

So the weekend has gone and the daytime fishing is still sluggish , bream on a slow tick on the west amongst the grabs, general crab size is getting smaller so things looking up a little. Plaice sole a few mackerel keep things ticking over. Bass numbers have slowed as have the bigger takes at night. Night guy indicates the weekend was slower than mid week, Hound pups, plaice, strap conger. sole, small rays & dogs seem to be the mainstay of the weekend.
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round up (sat am)

So we reach Saturday after what can only be described for some as a stupendous weeks fishing on the marina AT NIGHT , a certain group managed 30 bass over 5-9lb along with a host of other bass, rays, smoothounds even a couple of baby tope, and some very decent sole. Star catch of the week amongst a week of great fish has to be the 16.4lb smoothie on the west for Wilson Mak, loads of pics uploaded to the galleries so if you havn’t seen it yet take a look on the “marina gallery”.

Add to all of the above and Thurs saw the first real shoal of horse mackerel so a timely reminder about lights on the wall.
Blue and white only please, this includes underwater lights, while many seem to be using green lights underwater, please dont. green and red are the main navigation lights so please avoid using them. This doesn’t apply to glow lights on rod tips b4 the silly questions follow, im referring to bulb types on head lamps torches , underwater lighting and lamps in general and please folks leave the car batteries in cars & not on the wall , ty
Mackerel still predominantly 1st and last light with plaice the staple on the east wall.
To roundup the species tallies, Bass, Thornback & undulate rays, smoothounds, tope (baby)plaice, Sole, Bream, Wrasse, Mackerel, Horse mackerel, Chan & pout whiting, and tons & tons of spider crabs of which the worst seem on the high tide, on the west wall they seem to be stacking to get at fish !
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its late ! didn’t have a date !

Well this should have been posted Sunday but in its own way i’m glad the post is late or I wouldnt have been adding this picture of the superb catch by Wilson Mac 16.4lb of Smoothound that was safely returned from the west wall Tuesday night.
This most recent post should have been all about last weekends explosion of catches on both walls at night. Sadly the catches during the day I cant say have been great. Things in general on the Bream front are behind & add to this the spider crab invasion has greated an odd situation. Low tides catching during the day is picking up but as the tide comes in so it seems so do the spider crabs. Some people have even seen them stacking up on each other against the wall driving fry & just about anything else away from them and then stuffing themselves on anglers baits. If you can find a way around or to beat the crabs you have a half decent chance of bagging some fish.
Bream are on the increase and there are some lovely sole to be had. Hounds and rays are now hunting down the mackerel shoals resulting in some awesome catches and a boost for the galleries at the moment. The bass anglers are having a ball as the mackerel start to play on the walls. Find the mackies & you may just hit something a bit special.
So a little more exciting on the walls I recon.
Weather wise it looks good for the next week so , what are ya all waiting for ? gome have a go …. or as an old tv prog used to say …. get some in !…..
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fri to sun morn

well the night sessions are definitely playing and paying off for quite a few. both walls seemingly loaded with fish beginning Thursday as a quiet day crept towards dusk and the mackerel started to tease anglers first followed by some smallish rays and then the bass and smoothounds switched on for some. as the night ticked on the rays also seemed to get better with at least two running over 11lb.

Sat day I dont have any real picture of what was going on but again it seemed to turn it on in the dark, again with rays n hounds and for one group some real quality bass. Both walls 2 nights running producing some real lovely fish.
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lummy its thurs

Yup woke up this morning, body n brain said stuff it so I did what many cant.. spent a lazy morning in bed.. thought it was wednesday tbh ! , so found out was thurs & son decided he wants to fish over night on Fri … . whats all this got to do with a fishing report … nothing but thought i’d better type summat as no one has really kept me upto date on whats really going on on the marina! ..

Bream are ticking over as are the plaice on the east & in all honesty I think even the walls are having lazy days on the smaller tides.
Mackerel were about in numbers this afternoon on the east but there was hardly anyone there to see it … id picture the bag of mackerel on dude had but tbh its a common sight usually so pop over to the marina group for the piccy.

Ya never know maybe someone will update me a bit more tomorrow .. Happy days , fish on dude(s) šŸ™‚

new day new week

I spent the day on the west yesterday and a simple summing up is that things were tough. ATM bream n wrasse fry has not really hit the walls so a lack of food to get thos wanted mackerel in in numbers, ass to that what fish is finding the walls has the same problem .. spider crabs. In some cases there are huge buggers out there.
A few smallish bream are getting through but in general bream numbers are 3 weeks behind on last years catches. If the crabs would get lost … I recon the fishing will improve massively.
Plenty of chats yesterday with anglers & size info passed on to some, as was a reminder for a few not to bring glass onto the wall. Plaice still ticking things over on the east with a few brem and wrasse high and low bays… again size reminders to some that felt it was ok to keep everything. Some decent bass on both walls for the night anglers and a few congers also .. no sign of horse mackerel yet but cant be too far away. While hard work the bream on the west are slowly increasing along the wall and for on guy a small gurnard on the lower bay. Gorgeous in the sun yesterday but I suspect a few went home with sunburn !
Take acre out there its nice , its sunny but sunburn takes a few days to calm
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